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for when a league of super teams?

SM_Spawn
Fri, 09 Aug 2019 16:46:49 GMT

we would have to make this game something more interesting since there are many players, including me, who have been playing for many years ... we would have to improve the interface of this game with a super league or team tournament! what do you think?

Lara
Fri, 09 Aug 2019 22:33:28 GMT

If you like to support us, you can send us a little donation, you see we run out of money soon. New ideas like yours need to open a new special server, because not all like changes at all... I think fresh wind is welcome , yes

Badger
Tue, 13 Aug 2019 10:57:17 GMT

Lara, the moment the word "Donation" comes up. it is totally quiet. Never, ever saw a donation from Spawn, all these years. People still think the server is running for free. You and me are getting tired of asking for donations. So we will not do this anymore. If there is no money we just let it die.

Badger
Wed, 14 Aug 2019 07:37:33 GMT

http://cryserv.eu/en/stats/ Top 10 of non-donators

ingemeisel
Sat, 17 Aug 2019 00:42:02 GMT

@Badger: be careful who u count into ur top10

ingemeisel
Sat, 17 Aug 2019 00:43:51 GMT

This game is free to play and ALL players are vital to the game. So why shut down this attempt to bring new fun to game by insisting on donations? Non-donators earn respect too and without them, this game is also dead. I see much value in players who play A LOT and strengthen the community by communicating nicely ingame and thereby building gaming-friendships (I look at u Spawn, Sem, Gaga, Guep, Deathy, lala, Hikmet, Dasha, Khaleesi, Sandy, puman, snakebyte, Denuvo etc). These friendships are 50% of the fun to me. And it doesnt matter if they donate or not, these guys contribute a lot.

Badger
Sat, 17 Aug 2019 07:53:35 GMT

Again a discussion. Of course it is fun, but this game is not free to play. It costs money to keep it alive. If it's really a close community we never have to ask for donations. Did you ever ask your ingame friends to help us stay alive? So many times asked for say €5,00/month. That is around € 0.23 / day. That is nothing to have contact and fun with your friends everyday, right? But as we can see we still rely on the same 4 or 5 donators. If one of them stop donating we are dead. So what we are saying is that this is the last time we will ask for it. No money, no server.

ingemeisel
Sat, 17 Aug 2019 08:54:34 GMT

Yes I asked them to donate. But u dont seem to get my point. I asked to respect the contributions of non-donators, but u dont give it

Joseph Corber
Sat, 17 Aug 2019 09:00:27 GMT

Both the emotional attachment between us and paying the server bills are important, but you may see that covering expenses is _mandatory_: it doesn't really comes first, but without that there would be no game to play in the first place.

ingemeisel
Sat, 17 Aug 2019 09:04:35 GMT

Ok, I see, u think Im stupid...thanks for talking

Joseph Corber
Sat, 17 Aug 2019 09:22:13 GMT

I did not mean to imply that, you _do_ have a point and I can relate to it. On the other hand, I don't really see Badger as "looking down" on non-donators as things stand, he's simply remarking the fact that our hosting company demands their services to be covered: this month's paycheck was on the 14th and without some _very hasty last-minute donation_ we wouldn't be here to talk about it now.

ingemeisel
Sat, 17 Aug 2019 10:09:23 GMT

...and u think I didnt understand that???

ingemeisel
Sat, 17 Aug 2019 10:46:07 GMT

so now let me be bold and talk about other things than donations, for instance the topic of this post: a league or team tournament-server. I really like the idea. What do other players think about it? and what do the people in power here think about it?

Lara
Sat, 17 Aug 2019 10:57:42 GMT

Then we have to start talking about how this new server could be looking. Should it have any mods, knowen things from our other server's ,? Statistics just for itself for example And which map's should we run there Players should be automatically renamed to their registered names for all other to know who they are... So what else do this server need ? Suggestions please

Joseph Corber
Sat, 17 Aug 2019 11:26:12 GMT

Agreeing to a suitable day and time may also be a challenge, having players from different timezones. I remember from in-game comments, last time, no one wanted to clearly state their availability for this, since it would mean to make a commitment. People generally log in whenever they feel like it... so having incomplete teams by the time the match starts is a possibility that should be taken into account. Other than that, the idea itself certainly is nice... so we could give it a try once we figure out which maps, loadouts and server settings would be appealing for everyone.

ingemeisel
Sat, 17 Aug 2019 11:41:18 GMT

as Spawn came up with the idea, maybe he could deliver some outlines to it...

Badger
Sat, 17 Aug 2019 15:02:57 GMT

Oh Inge, such a sensitive response on a nice clear answer from Joseph Corber. He is so polite. So you DID understand that we needed the money to pay the server and still you did not do anything, execept making comments. Maybe take some action one day by yourself and help us out. So maybe the best idea here is that you indeed stop talking. Seriously!

ingemeisel
Sun, 18 Aug 2019 02:03:41 GMT

@Badger I donated several times. pls stay on topic now.

Badger
Sun, 18 Aug 2019 11:41:28 GMT

Of course you donated, but must be a long time ago, right? As mentioned by Joseph, this was tried so many times before. But as you can see Spawn just stays quiet. And again I asked you to stop talking here. You do not think in solutions, you dont bring positive energy. Only frustration, We will wait for Spawn to see if he has something to add.

ingemeisel
Sun, 18 Aug 2019 15:12:36 GMT

I dont know why u hate me so much, but let me tell u this: I maybe donated 3 months ago, then I moved with my family and didnt have the money and even didnt have inet connection for more than 4 weeks and didnt play. But Im going to donate next month again. In this thread I talked about respect and friendship and tried to take the conversation back to the topic, so how u tell me I "do not think in solutions, you dont bring positive energy"?