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nemix77
Fri, 25 Oct 2013 08:12:20 GMT

Hi, Can you add an option to make the start button to work as default Windows function in Metro UI while still keeping ctrl+win to switch back and forth between the desktop and Metro UI and the win key open the Start Menu on the desktop, this is available in Start8 but missing in StartIsBack+. Also is it possible to add an option to disable the charms bar and top edge (or all edge function for that matter) on the desktop but still be able to use them when switched to Metro UI environment. Thanks,

startisback
Fri, 25 Oct 2013 09:15:15 GMT

All hot corners are controlled for desktop only. You can turn top corners totally with Windows 8.1 Navigation settings. As for hotkey scenario, please elaborate what exactly is missing.

nemix77
Mon, 16 Dec 2013 11:12:21 GMT

Hi again, I've busy with work and my laptop did not have all the drivers needed for Windows 8 and thus I reverted back to Windows 7 and did not follow up on the request. But I'm back on Windows 8.1 since all drivers for my laptop is now available for Windows 8.1 and I really like all the new features you've put into StartIsback+. The keyboard start key working as default in Metro UI apps as mentioned above is indeed an option in Start8 since I've recently installed Start8 trial to confirm my vague memory of this when I had Windows 8. I've uploaded the images for the option found in Start8, the way the option works is when you switch to Metro UI using CTRL + Win Key shortcut and then open a Metro UI apps pressing the Win Key from within the Metro UI app brings you back to the Metro UI Start Screen and if you press the Win Key it again it'll bring you back to the Desktop which is how the Win Key works as default in Windows 8/8.1 without any Start Menu programs (when in Metro UI Start Screen pressing Win Key bring you back to the desktop). There's also an option to ma ke pressing the Win Key while in Metro UI just go straight back to the Desktop regardless if you in an app or at the Metro UI Start Screen and then lastly is an option already found in StartIsBack+ is pressing the Win Key bring you back to the desktop and opens the desktop Start Menu. If you can kindly look into implementing this feature into StartIsBack+ I'd would be highly appreciate, of all the Start Menu program available I keep coming back to StartIsBack+ trial until I can make my final decision since I did had to end up reverting back to Windows 7 at the launch of Windows 8.1. Thanks in advance, [How Windows Key Acts in MetroUI](//res.cloudinary.com/moot/image/upload/t_d3-gallery-s1/v1387192340/:startisback:j2r0:howwindowskeyactsinmetroui.png.jpg)

nemix77
Mon, 16 Dec 2013 11:12:56 GMT

[How Windows Key Acts in MetroUI_2](//res.cloudinary.com/moot/image/upload/t_d3-gallery-s1/v1387192375/:startisback:1a0u:howwindowskeyactsinmetroui_2.png.jpg) [How Windows Key Acts in MetroUI_3](//res.cloudinary.com/moot/image/upload/t_d3-gallery-s1/v1387192375/:startisback:ZkYP:howwindowskeyactsinmetroui_3.png.jpg)

startisback
Mon, 16 Dec 2013 11:32:51 GMT

Please elaborate what scenario you have in mind. The current key handling is consistent in both Desktop / Metro environments; I find it inconsistent when you press key and different stuff can happen.

nemix77
Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:20:56 GMT

It's much easier to use to just the Windows Key when in Metro UI to navigate between Metro UI apps the MetroUI Start Screen and then back to the desktop when you're already on the the desktop trying to avoid the MetroUI Start Screen pressing CTRL + Win Key to get to the MetroUI Start Screen makes a lot of sense, basically treating MetroUI as separate environment where the Win Key can be used a lot to navigate in and out of Metro apps and then back to the Desktop environment with ease. The inconsistency is the to make it harder to get to the MetroUI Start Screen via keyboard when on the desktop while having it easier to navigate Metro apps and get out of the Metro UI Start Screen and back to the desktop much easier via keyboard, it's an option for desktop users in mind. Of course users still have an option to keep the consistency of pressing CTRL + Win in both the Desktop and Metro UI Start Screen and should be the default option if the feature is implemented. The feature and same options in Start8 is also found in ClassicShell and IMHO the two second best Start Menu programs after StartIsBack+

nemix77
Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:30:05 GMT

Basically I makes for an easy transition of those who've been using Windows 8/8.1 without a Start Menu program since with these options users can makes the Win Key act like Windows default when in Metro UI and they only change would be to get into Metro UI pressing CTRL + Win, while on the desktop everything acts like Windows 7 so yet another easy transition for new users to Windows 8/8.1 from Windows 7 who've chose installed StartIsBack+. I currently do not have license for StartIsBack+ yet since I'm still shopping around and trying out other Start Menu programs but if this feature get implements then I'm going to have to buy one since StartIsBack+ in the only program that runs native with Windows and has lots of good options although talking about resources ClassicShell semis to use very little and Start8 while having 3 services uses low memory too. Thanks,

startisback
Tue, 17 Dec 2013 14:36:29 GMT

'Easy transition for those who've been using Windows 8 without a Start Menu program' is null, since people want StartIsBack to restore Windows 7 menu behavior. However, having behavior that is compliant with both Windows 7 and Windows 8 is good suggestion, i'll research it. StartIsBack (not StartIsBack+) supported a scenario where Ctrl+Win changes Windows key behavior. Nobody missed it when it was yanked in StartIsBack+ - it hard to operate two environments at once.

nemix77
Wed, 18 Dec 2013 00:08:05 GMT

I cannot remember if StartIsBack had this option even though I tried StartIsBack a couple months after Windows 8 was released but in all honesty I preferred Start8 when I had the original Windows 8 but quickly reverted back to 7 simply because I did not think Windows 8 was ready for retail (lots of things missing and unusual bugs). Please do consider researching it and implementing the feature if possible, then we can maybe work on making StartIsBack+ look prettier if you're in for it. Thanks,