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Friend in Fitzgerald

lindzyb0523
Sun, 18 Aug 2019 19:44:06 GMT

In one of the first episodes Payne’s grandmother’s friend Melba from Ocilla was saying she heard Tara visited a friend in Fitzgerald before going to the barbecue. I know she went by her landlord’s son’s house in Ocilla before, but could that be a possibility? Because I heard later in the podcasts that Ryan and Bo were living in Fitzgerald. Could she have came by to their house before the barbecue?

skidmarks
Wed, 11 Sep 2019 01:29:48 GMT

Absolutely

skidmarks
Wed, 11 Sep 2019 01:30:07 GMT

You are getting warm

juliet-1
Wed, 11 Sep 2019 18:32:46 GMT

@skidmarks, hey I know you’ve been around for a long time. You always have level headed unbiased comments. I appreciate that ! Thinking you even went to nasty ole Bo’s trial and are a local. So could you share your theory as to what really happened that night ? Thank you

maguthri09
Sat, 28 Sep 2019 17:33:48 GMT

Just because you discussed the facts of the case it did not place blame on her or make it shameful. Actually, it never entered my mind until Nancy Grace opened that door. As she is speaking, she is the one who was placing blame. She made it disgusting. So what she was dating, she didn't have to draw attention to that fact in the case. Payne, your amazing and your discretion is beyond reproach. Great job in approach with that obnoxious woman. Megan from Chicago

deb8ofus
Mon, 30 Sep 2019 12:43:26 GMT

I’m new on this page, but I have been looking for a place to test my theory of what happened to Tara. I, too, wondered if Ryan was the former student she visited before the barbecue. I also wonder if Tara, in a bad place emotionally, may have acted a little out of character that night. Could it have played out like this: Tara stops to visit Ryan for a few minutes before the barbecue. He mentions that they will be hanging out in the pecan orchard later. Maybe she can drop by. Just before she leaves the barbecue, the call from Heath Dykes leaves her discouraged. (It is a relationship with no future if he is not leaving his wife.) She is already hurt by Marcus and the fact that he won’t try again with their relationship. So she thinks, what the heck? Why not drop by the orchard and hang out with the guys? They appreciate her, they admire her. She needed some positive to counter all the negative that was going on with her relationally. (Please understand—I am not placing blame or shame. I am trying to keep her human, with real emotions and needs.) So she leaves the bbq, ru ns by her house a few blocks away, changes clothes, and drives out to the orchard. (Her phone as almost dead, so she plugged it up and left it. People weren’t as attached to or dependent on their phones in 2005.) Something happens at the orchard. We could fill in the blanks with any number of things. Someone mentioned a drug overdose, and everybody freaked out. She didn’t use drugs, or even drink. This actually makes an accidental overdose even more plausible—she had no tolerance built up in her system. Maybe somebody slipped her something. Or again, maybe she was in a place emotionally where she did something totally irrational and out of character. Maybe one of the guys did something to her. Either way, she died. And what if they, in a panic, hid her body, drove her car back to her house, and later burned her body just as in all the other narratives. This scenario includes several random statements or facts that never seemed to be explained. 1) The visit to a former student before the barbecue. 2) The woman who said she was leaving her house, stopped at the stop sign at the end of Tara’s street, looked down the street, and noticed that Tara’s car was gone (around midnight.) 3) The mud on the tires and seat pushed back in Tara’s car. 4) The phone on the charger, while the purse and keys were missing. 5) The dog still outside. When Ryan Duke’s friends have spoken, they all said that he was “not the kind of person” to do this kind of thing. And yet he did. He did something totally out of character for him. And we are ready to believe it. Why is it so hard to believe that Tara did something we never in a million years would think she would do? And I am speaking of something as innocuous as going to hang out with some people she normally wouldn’t hang out with. We have all done things that we look back on and say Ugh. What was I thinking? If Tara had woken up on Sunday, October 23, 2005, she would have probably been thinking the same. But she didn’t wake up. She never woke up again.

lexala
Tue, 08 Oct 2019 02:17:18 GMT

Thank you for typing out your theory. I was with you up until the last paragraph. I personally don't believe Ryan is responsible for killing Tara for a million reasons which are too many to type out...however I do think past behavior is a predictor for future behavior. While we don't know all the nooks and crannies of Tara's behavior with men in the past it is easy for me to put myself in her shoes at that age and say I might have done exactly as you explained above, especially at that age and in that emotional state. However I completely understand what you are saying, if one person can act out of character why can't another? I think it is the magnitude of what you are talking about here, you are comparing Tara doing something a little crazy like going and hanging with ex-students to someone doing something completely out of character like KILLING a person. Personally I think that the risks a person takes in what he/she will or won't do is within a spectrum of what is "normal" within their behavior. And killing and (in my own personal theory raping) is far outside of Ry an's spectrum. However it isn't outside of Bo's as we have seen recently. (...just my own thoughts. I am clearly not a psychologist or anything remotely close)