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Holes in Ryan’s testimony

maddymouse
Tue, 24 May 2022 20:29:10 GMT

Ryan’s testimony at trial doesn’t explain how a rubber glove with his DNA ended up outside Tara’s house. I suppose the suggestion was that Bo planted it because Dykes and others didn’t see it when they stopped by the days prior. But it is way more likely that Ryan dropped the glove with his DNA than Bo being some type of criminal mastermind. There is also no evidence that Ryan was ever in her house despite his original confession. Also, Tara’s car was noticed missing from the carport that night and was returned with the seat all the way back and mud/wild flowers underneath. No foreign prints in the car but evidence that someone else had driven it. To me, it seems obvious that Ryan dropped the glove after bringing her car back to her house. This would mean she was not killed in her home and that Ryan was never inside, thus throwing a wrench in Ryan’s confession and state’s case/evidence. Which makes me wonder- Why would Ryan confess to killing Tara in her hous e if he was never there? and why admit to his role in burning her body but edit the story to leave out returning her car? Neither his confession or testimony can be the whole true story.

Osmosis
Wed, 25 May 2022 00:15:16 GMT

Ok so with the 100 odd samples taken from the car was there any sign of the vehicle being wiped ? As in too clean

maddymouse
Wed, 25 May 2022 00:33:01 GMT

@osmosis he wouldn’t have to wipe anything if he was wearing rubber gloves… no Bo or Ryan prints were found in the car

Osmosis
Wed, 25 May 2022 03:41:46 GMT

But Tara's may have been smudged or wiped as a result of them wearing gloves is more what I'm getting at

miss_bee
Wed, 25 May 2022 11:15:41 GMT

Only Bo knows the whole story. When Bo returned the car, someone had to pick him up. He obviously had help from someone. My best guess is the guy he left with BM. Bo's or BM's relative could have given them help and/or advice.

maddymouse
Wed, 25 May 2022 17:03:31 GMT

@miss_bee or Ryan dropped the car back, took off the gloves, dropped one and got into Bo’s truck and left?

maddymouse
Wed, 25 May 2022 17:04:07 GMT

I wonder if he admitted to bringing her car back that would make him an accomplice in her murder vs. an accessory after the fact

maddymouse
Wed, 25 May 2022 22:28:10 GMT

Edit: Just learned that there is no such thing as “accessory after the fact” in GA, hence the concealment charge

Osmosis
Thu, 26 May 2022 10:46:20 GMT

Does anybody know whether or not being in the military required the enlisted to have a bank account ? In the testimony it is said ryan doesn't have a bank account let alone a credit card also when ryan went AWOL from jump training he said he drove his car home what happened to it from that time to the time of the crime?

miss_bee
Thu, 26 May 2022 13:27:49 GMT

@maddymouse so your theory is that ryan left bo's truck there, left with tara in the car, brought the car back, got in the truck and left? why not just put tara in the truck? wouldn't that make much more sense? I believe ryan, therefore my theory and ideas are based on what we know from him. I do not believe that tara was killed in her home. I think it happened at the orchard and she was forced there or lured there under a false pretense, much like Bo did with the 2 women in the Warner Robbins case.

maddymouse
Thu, 26 May 2022 19:10:13 GMT

@miss_bee I don’t really have a theory! But I am confident that neither Bo’s story, Ryan’s confession or his testimony is the 100% truth about what happened that night. None explained the role of her car! I agree that Tara wasn’t killed in her house. So besides Bo planting the glove, Ryan would have dropped it while returning her car, as he wouldn’t need gloves to clean up inside if he was never inside and he wouldn’t have to go back for her body from inside if she wasn’t killed inside! Maybe Tara left her house that night and ran into Ryan and/or Bo while out, something happens, Ryan drives the car back with gloves to avoid leaving fingers prints and DNA in the car but dropped one. Even if Bo killed her, Ryan still could have driven back her car. It’s the only way the DNA glove makes sense to me. (The Tara DNA on it could be from her steering wheel not necessarily her). Tara and the car could have been at the orchard before her death or after her death (as in Ta ra never left the orchard alive or the car was used to dump her there and then brought back to her house). Was the mud on car tires ever compared to the soil in the orchard ?

leesburgnative
Fri, 27 May 2022 01:27:02 GMT

Were there ever pictures of the mud on the tires? I’d love to see how they compare to snapdragon Road.

maddawg1212
Fri, 27 May 2022 02:14:53 GMT

Didn’t he have her address if he had her wallet? The phone call and returning the purse so quickly seems weird.

miss_bee
Fri, 27 May 2022 12:23:23 GMT

@maddymouse If whoever it was was just wearing the glove to return the car, then why go up the walkway where the glove was found? @maddawg1212 having an address wasn't very helpful if you didn't know where it was. Were there even smart phones back then?

maddymouse
Fri, 27 May 2022 14:22:02 GMT

@miss_bee good point! I guess I had imagined him cutting thru the yard to leave and get picked up and stuffing them in his pocket but 1 didn’t make it.

bananadaddy
Sat, 28 May 2022 07:00:45 GMT

The returning of the purse part of Ryan's story is the weakest part of his testimony imo. I'm assuming that he already knew she was dead and had to return her car, so the phone call was made as a way to check if anyone was there before he drove up to the house. They probably tossed the purse and the keys in the dumpster after dropping off the car. We'll never know, but that makes way more sense to me.

maddymouse
Sat, 28 May 2022 10:40:24 GMT

@bananadaddy agreed!

miss_bee
Sat, 28 May 2022 11:43:42 GMT

The glove was found on the route from the parking area to the front door, not in the yard.

nubianhex11
Sat, 28 May 2022 22:59:00 GMT

If Ryan and Tara's DNA were on the glove, then it could be theorized that Ryan's DNA was there b/c Ryan was wearing the gloves when he returned the car back to Tara's house. Tara's DNA was on there because her DNA was likely all inside of her car. The phone call from convenience store wasn't an attempt to 'find her house', but rather to see if anyone was at her house and to make sure that the coast was clear to return the car without being seen. I don't believe that she was killed at her house at all. I don't think that Ryan is a brainiac or nothing, but confessing that he 'killed her with one strike to the head' at her home while he was caught pilfering her purse probably sounded a lot better than the truth AND it would lead the instigators to look in the wrong direction for evidence.

maddymouse
Sun, 29 May 2022 00:33:02 GMT

@ nubianhex11 100%

pijjl
Tue, 31 May 2022 04:43:05 GMT

It seems to me like Bo returned the car and dropped the glove. Maybe Ryan was wearing them at some point while handling Tara and threw them away. Bo could have retrieved one from the trash and dropped it in the yard when returning the car. That way the evidence would line up with his story. The story I believe he made up to cover up what he did while Ryan was passed out. It seems the only way Ryan would want to help destroy Tara's body is if he was convinced he did it and Bo said cremating her would be the only way to make sure any and all evidence was destroyed.

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