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Possible gang rape?

melodie07
Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:38:05 GMT

Let me start off by apologizing if this is something that has been discussed, and the crass statement. A co-worker of mine just tuned me into this podcast last week and I binged and listened to the whole season! This is the very first podcast I’ve ever listened to and was intrigued throughout the whole season! But I did have a bit of a nagging question. There was an episode where Payne talks to someone who thinks he was in the truck speaking to Ryan for like an hour out at the orchard. The guy he is interviewing says that he hears Bo get upset, and then he takes off his shirt? Then in the background you hear the faint sound of people cheering him on??? So with hearing that it lead me to think that Tara was out in the orchard and they were possibly drinking, she passes out, and then people took advantage of her, somehow she wakes up, they freak out and kill her? Did anyone else see that as a possibility? And to wrap things up Bo stages the robbery at her house? Again sorry if this has been brought up, but brand new listener here ;)

007mom
Sat, 04 Aug 2018 09:38:23 GMT

Does anyone recall the man who told a story about his ex-wife going out with Bo? This was near the end of the podcast, and the ex-wife became really afraid of Bo. She told her ex-husband that Bo took her out to the orchard and tied her to a tree. When she began to panic, he told her to scream as loud as she wanted, but no one would ever hear her. Terrifying, if you ask me. I’ve often thought that’s what may have happened to Tara. Psychopaths like to relive their conquests. I think it’s very plausible that Bo was reenacting with this girl what was done to Tara. We’ve always assumed she was dead when she got to the orchard, but what if she wasn’t. Did someone tie her to a tree? Rape her? According to Brooke, Bo said she was nude when he first saw her. But then his explanation for her skin discoloration didn’t add up. I’ve always been haunted by that guy’s story. It makes a lot more sense than Ryan just showing up at Tara’s house, killing her, then dropping off her body at the orchard. This is purely speculation on my part, and I’m interested in any feedback.

lexala
Sat, 04 Aug 2018 14:48:18 GMT

I used to have the same exact theory involving being tied to a tree but lately I've been thinking more drugged, raped and overdosed. Sorry for being so blunt and graphic.

007mom
Sat, 04 Aug 2018 20:26:53 GMT

And you could very well be right. I'm not as positive as I once was that she was already deceased when she arrived at the pecan orchard. Here lately, especially after hearing that guy's story about his ex-wife, I'm starting to think she was very much alive when she got there. I also think Bo, instead of Ryan, could tell us the whole story. I think Bo's story to Brooke might have had pieces of truth in it, but I also think he threw Ryan under the bus to save his own neck. He started spreading that lie a long time ago in case he was ever caught.

zzivy
Sat, 04 Aug 2018 21:20:44 GMT

@lexala drugged, raped and overdosed -- occuring at the orchard?

lexala
Sun, 05 Aug 2018 07:53:32 GMT

That's a great question. I used to think definitely at the orchard but my mind has changed a few times since then. Maybe her house or (and I never thought I would consider this but...) maybe at Snapdragon.

lexala
Sun, 05 Aug 2018 13:38:55 GMT

What do you think Zzivy?

jimmything
Tue, 07 Aug 2018 23:38:51 GMT

After listening to Brooke's story, I think Tara was at the party and Ryan drove her home. That is why the seat would be pushed back and why she would have mud on her tires. Then she could have been killed at her house. After all, Brooke says "Ryan took her car, and went to Tara's house"

Osmosis
Tue, 07 Aug 2018 23:55:38 GMT

Making an assumption from anything she says is unhealthy lol she is running on bo's story but finds it very hard to keep it straight i believe she did indeed cross paths with at least 3 of these boys whether it was at a party or white horse who knows but the more i think on this the more i feel she didnt die at her house what ever happened may have stemmed from an incident there but the shutdown process in her death never occured in her house so i dont believe she spent any time after her death in her house or the cadiva dogs would of hit on something which is a very scary thought

firehawk
Wed, 08 Aug 2018 01:19:44 GMT

Brooke actually told two different stories, one that Ryan drove her car, and the other that Ryan stole Bo's truck while they were all passed out. I am not sure I believe either.

007mom
Wed, 08 Aug 2018 20:06:14 GMT

@Osmosis I agree. Something happened at the orchard, in my opinion, for her to end up there deceased...and without clothes. I do believe that’s one portion of Bo’s story that was true. How it got to that point, I have an opinion on that too. Like you, I also think there were a couple of buddies involved whose names have managed to stay out of the story so far. Boys drinking, things got out of hand, and a woman ended up dead. Something tells me that, even after the trial, we will never know the whole truth.

Osmosis
Wed, 08 Aug 2018 20:44:52 GMT

The no clothes comment is odd there are only 2 reasons someone would of removed her clothes 1. Sexual or 2. To return to her or leave at her house to make it look like she went home so if that is the case

hfha4
Sat, 11 Aug 2018 08:10:29 GMT

It HAD to be Bo. The gang rape thing was what I was thinking too. Maybe she did go out there willingly to go to the party and they were all drinking. Maybe someone slipped something into her drink? She passes out and a couple of the guys violate her and someone drives her car around on a little joy ride. Bo and Bowden probably started the whole thing and they knew Ryan was completely blacked out so when he came to, whether he did anything or not, they convinced him that he had killed her himself. I think it's HIGHLY possible that they drove her car back and staged a robbery/kidnapping. The story about bo dating that guy's ex wife and telling her that "no one would hear her scream" out there 100% confirms it for me that Bo did this. I think Ryan was blacked out the entire time and he wouldn't know what happened anyway. But the 'joy ride" in that one story and the story about that guy's ex wife leads me to believe that it was mostly Bo and then Ryan, that Bowden kid, and maybe a couple of other guys in their friend group all sexually violated her after slipping something i n a drink. Also, the story of Bo telling that guy that he could kill him and get away with it. It HAD to be mostly Bo. Probably half of the friend group was "in" on it.

Osmosis
Sat, 11 Aug 2018 22:18:40 GMT

Please elaborate as to how you came upon this scenario there are Lot of theories on the web that support or deny this theory and many a crazy show has encited from discussing it as a possibility im not saying it isnt plausable just is this what you think seems the most logical as there is absolutely no proof as of yet that any of these boys were in her house and the likely hood of it being sexually relevant is only because people cant understand these actions unless someone was trying to hide something that could potentially be found on her body and you wouldnt go to those lengths to cover an overdose i dont believe

palmettojusticesc
Sun, 12 Aug 2018 01:28:00 GMT

@hfha4 I have always thought this. You essentially have a bunch of 21 year olds!!!!!! You have Bo that thinks he can do anything he wants(his mentallity). They slip a drug in a friendly Coca cola then violate her . Now you have Exchange of bodily floods and a toxicology indicating the drug used. Now you have a C.O.D. and DNA evidence. they basically destroy all forensics by destruction and fire. No body. No C.O.D. No DNA. 21 yr olds had knowledgeable help with this one. Go to "Rational to a Fault" and read Dusty Vassey's story "Tara in a Bottle" I have said it on here again and again. Dusty Vassey was in the know more than anyone . he was a reporter for Ocilla Star and well respected and well thought of. People talked to him because he could be trusted!!!!!

SlickWilly
Mon, 13 Aug 2018 16:02:47 GMT

I wish almost everyday if I could go back and have one more conversation with him knowing what we do now. Last time I was down in Irwin CO stopped by visited him and left a Dr Pepper for him and asked him for guidance as I was about to face a very big task that day! Hope he's proud!

Catwoman (daystar)
Mon, 13 Aug 2018 16:23:13 GMT

Definitely miss Dusty's insight.

undersea_captive
Mon, 13 Aug 2018 16:25:10 GMT

How confident are we that Dusty knew the truth (or as close to it as one can be in this case)?

Catwoman (daystar)
Mon, 13 Aug 2018 16:29:28 GMT

I'm confident Dusty knew things .. I don't know how confident I am regarding how much he had put together and trusted. I think he guarded a lot toward the end out of respect for people. I wouldn't be surprised if there was much more he knew that was never shared. Then again perhaps he shared it all? Apparently I'm not confident in my confidence level. lol

SlickWilly
Mon, 13 Aug 2018 16:30:11 GMT

I believe he even said at one point and time he couldn't believe he had heard the truth all those years ago. Now that doesn't mean he knew at the time. I think towards the end Dusty was well aware of what happened that night. Although, he may not have had enough people to tell him so he could show it as factual. Dusty would not write about something unless he was 100% certain it was the truth and could show proof if he needed to later down the road. I'd love to be able just to pick his brain and bounce stuff off of each other just one more time...

lilbrat
Tue, 14 Aug 2018 02:56:41 GMT

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