What form of communication would Dusty have been alluding to? Not an official report is my leaning, possibly an email, text, social media post or DM?
Good question Nacho! I don't think many people know the answer to that. I know he never said exactly what he read but he was certain he read the scenario that is being told.
Can anyone help me understand this statement by witness who heard grand jury leak in episode 21? "Dusty’s source: He said that Bo's standing over her when she woke up, and that it freaked him out so he hit her. And I said, "with what?" And he said, "well, hold on," so he started to tell me, he said he hit her and then, I guess it scared him and he left. He came back the next day, and wrapped her up in a blanket or quilt. What was crazy was his cousin was telling him, yeah, just right there in daylight, middle of the day, I'm thinking the morning time. But he went back and got her, and put her, wrapped her in blanket and put her in the back of the truck." "I guess, took her out to the orchard ... basically I guess happened in the dark, whenever he hit her, and then he freaked out and the left, and then he came back the next day, this is what the guy told me that he said...." To me it reads like Bo was standing over her, was surprised when she woke up, and hit he r. Also, how would you interpret the bit about his cousin was telling him? Bo's cousin telling him? and telling him what? To go back and get the body?
Theres the blanket / rug again when we were discussing what the dogs could of hit on, this was discussed ,but as far as we know no blankets or carpet /rugs were missing from taras i think someone actually asked Anita that question and she said no it has been a while though i could be wrong does anyone think the blanket is relevant at all if partial bits of rug were found at any time over the pond searches do you think it could of held any traces of DNA
@Tendrils Just to be clear Dusty’s alleged grand jury leak never said it was Bo standing over her. That would make no sense in Ryan’s murder trial. That would be Ryan who was over Tara in this scenario that the Grand Jury would hear. And secondly when it comes to the cousin aspect I believe the person we hear telling the story to Payne would be a friend of whoever heard the Grand Jury testimony from their cousin. Hence when we we hear cousin that relates to the juror who was hearing the testimony in court. That is my takeaway at least and I’m not sure how open to interpretation it is
The juror (person A) tells their cousin (person B) who in turn tells the leaker (person C) who spills it to Payne. That explains the further convo about who knows how much the cousin (person A or B) has been telling others
Thanks Nacho, I think the transcript on this site is in error saying "Bo's standing over her". That's what had me most confused. I went back and listened to the audio and i'm pretty certain it should read "he's standing over her". I also agree with your interpretation of the cousin being a relationship within the rumor mill of the grand jury leak.
That's exactly how the information was exchanged.
Apologies if this has been discussed already but the motion for the State to disclose any deals done with witnesses is an interesting point.... that could relate to Bo - the obvious one, or maybe another witness?
I agree @maisy- I've long been curious about other possible deals that may or may not have been made.
I hope not deals for anyone just parroting Bo's narrative
Yes @cat when I read the request for disclosure of any deals I immediately thought of Bo but Bo HAS been charged so maybe the defense are not only looking at him but another person as well...someone that has escaped from being charged with anything.
@Maisy Just because Bo has had formal charges drawn against him since Ryan’s arrest I would assume the defense would want to see if there was ever an immunity plea that maybe led to Bo giving his testimony as an accomplice in certain aspects of the crimes alleged towards Ryan. Even though Bo now faces charges Ryan’s defense will probably argue that Bo may’ve been given a free pass to implicate Ryan allthewhile giving credence to his narrative as it implicated himself *but* with the literal get out of jail free card. It’s odd that Bo claimed he had immunity (unsure if he ever actually did) and then he either fucked it up on his own by speaking about the crimes he committed or potentially was set up to a doomed immunity plea as he had already misled LE with his prior meeting with Agent Shoudel. Anyone have a clearer picture of a potential immunity deal? I would think if one was potentially set up the GBI it would cover all of the state districts within Georgia meani ng Wilcox wouldn’t have a way to levy charges on Bo if the GBI had an active deal with Bo. All so very odd to me
It would just be extremely intriguing and might take this case in a whole different direction if we suddenly find out that another player in this narrative came forward without anyone knowing or leaking and told a version of events. If that happened we'd have a whole new set up questions centered around that person and what they knew, how they knew, what their motives are, what their deal entails, is someone setting up the deals for them aka: pulling their strings or pulling strings for them, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc...
I don't doubt that one of those two had been in Tara's house before, and entered through the window. I think Bo or Ryan lured Tara to the house on Snapdragon so Ryan could have his way with her. When or where they lured her there was either on her way home from the BBQ or just as she arrived home, with something like "oh hey Miss Grinstead, can you give me a lift to such and such a place, my truck broke down, or my ride left me, and She probably drove one of those two right to Snapdragon where she was over powered. Bo then drove Tara's car back to her house, walked right in her house, locked the door behind himself and was staging a crime scene when Heath Dikes arrives. There was lamp on when Heath got there but was off later when the neighbor let people in the house. Is this the broken lamp in the bedroom? Bo left via the window, and probably walked halfway round the house to see if Dikes was still there, and plants the glove. He either had his truck parked near her house or where the second glove was found. I would not be surprised if Bo wore gloves over gloves for the purpose of leaving the outter pair behind to add to the confussion. Most first responders wear two pairs of gloves, incase you either rip one or have multiple patients. It saves time and prevents disease transmission in the event you have multiple people that need care. God only knows what they did to poor Tara in that house. This is where the blackout story fits in. Whatever they actually wrapped Tara in came from that house. Was she dead when she was moved from that house, I don't think so! Bo and Brooke are full of crap saying that Ryan concealed the body for four days in the orchard before Bo saw it, and it was blue and bruised. It would have been green/yellow, bloated, swarming with insects, and off gassing after four days. I think Ryan thinks he killed Tara and was too freaked out to realise Bo strangled her when they got to the orchard. They dug a pit, oiled her up, and burned her in that bonfire. Burning the house on Snapdragon served two purposes. It was a distraction and it burned any evidence those two didn't clean up. The SUV was just part of the distraction. I can't explain the Sherrif's Uniform. Was it in SUV and removed before the SUV was burned so it was taken and the patches removed, or was the uniform just another plant? 42" pants are kind of on the large side. The Sherrif's office would know who's pants they ordered in that size wouldn't they, or do we actually have a third party that was a LEO at the time? This is all speculation.
Seems like the connection between Ryan and Tara or Bo and Tara would have been much simpler than that. Just my opinion.
>or potentially was set up to a doomed immunity plea as he had already misled LE with his prior meeting with Agent Shoudel. Anyone have a clearer picture of a potential immunity deal? I would think if one was potentially set up the GBI it would cover all of the state districts within Georgia meani ng Wilcox wouldn’t have a way to levy charges on Bo if the GBI had an active deal with Bo. All so very odd to me It was a doomed plea most likely but this was exacerbated by information the BHC DA received I would think. The idea was to get Bo on as many things as they could to put him away. It seems obvious the BHC DA wants him locked up and would fight any immunity deal he may or may not have THOUGHT he had. It wasn't sewn up. They can be retracted very easily if he lies and he was found to have lied. The deal isn't with the GBI. The deals are with the Das.
>I think Bo or Ryan lured Tara to the house on Snapdragon so Ryan could have his way with her. I doubt it. There is and has never been any logic with Snapdragon Rd. What evidence is there at all with this location? None except a dodgy dog hit. At least I haven't heard of any definitive evidence but please tell me if there are now bonafide facts about Snapdragon Road (not just rumor) and I will retract my position.
Damn, @phans. You jumped the shark last night. Big time.
Interesting about the house on Snapdragon, when you put it that way @phans. I believe on the last Q&A Payne took a question about that house and said he firmly believed it was a White Rabbit. Even though you said speculation... Funny how the dogs hit on the burnt house on Snapdragon. Maybe not a White Rabbit after all?