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waxsimulacra
Sat, 05 Jan 2019 17:13:04 GMT

Hey guys, first time poster here. I can’t get the guy claiming to have video evidence out of my head. I know Payne was concerned that if it was money he was seeking, why not go for the reward? I agree, but I can’t shake the talk of the video and audio recording. Has this ever been mentioned before this person contacted Payne? Has anyone else at all ever mentioned such things?

MandLe
Sat, 05 Jan 2019 17:38:46 GMT

It's been mentioned that there was a video throughout the discussion boards on Facebook and on here from local crestone folks

waxsimulacra
Sat, 05 Jan 2019 18:03:23 GMT

Was this before that episode was released? I haven’t had the chance to pour over everything here and on FB, but it’s endlessly bothering me.

MandLe
Sat, 05 Jan 2019 18:20:21 GMT

before it came out, Zeven G on Facebook insinuated that CF may drug, rape and film women and possibly sell the footage on the deep dark web for tens of thousands of dollars in bitcoin. I use the terms "insinuated", "possibly" intentionally as these are merely allegations, with zero evidence to back it. However this rhumour "could have" been his understanding based on the broken telephone origin of a video made of Krystal

MandLe
Sat, 05 Jan 2019 18:24:17 GMT

My theory on the 5k guy, he doesn't want to go to LE for the reward, but rather go directly through Payne. I think law enforcement is corrupt somehow and he is fearing his safety. My other theory is he just wants 5k and doesn't know any more than any of us. I'm leaning toward the first theory...

hercules_q_rockafeller
Sat, 05 Jan 2019 18:46:07 GMT

It's either it's a scam or the fact that the reward money is given to information leading to an arrest or conviction. This means that the 20k possibly could not be received until years after the fact or not at all. Asking Payne was a way to get guaranteed money now. I really don't think he was in fear of the police as now there are multiple or at least 2 separate LE agencies involved. I also do think this guy probably saw the video. Just a gut feeling and by the way CF was sounding when discussing it with Payne.

waxsimulacra
Sat, 05 Jan 2019 19:06:29 GMT

@hercules_q_rockafeller Yeah, he did sound noticeably different when that came up. I tried to consider how he sounded other times when getting off on a tangent and sounding manic and things like that. I don’t know if the reaction was different, or if his entire state at the time of that particular conversation was different. It’s hard to tell.

waxsimulacra
Sat, 05 Jan 2019 19:08:19 GMT

It’s just crazy to me that anyone would have something as significant as a video or audio recording of a horrific event, that multiple people know about and have allegedly seen, could be buried so deeply. Why even have something like that? I had never heard about anything being sold on the dark web, that’s very interesting. If there’s anymore to that, I’d be interested to hear it if anyone can explain or direct me to a place to learn about it.

MandLe
Sat, 05 Jan 2019 19:17:58 GMT

Google deep dark web lots of info on it. Mostly used for human, drug and weapons trafficking and solicitation all paid for in crypto currency

MandLe
Sat, 05 Jan 2019 19:33:08 GMT

Everything you need to know can be found here: https://darkwebnews.com/help-advice/access-dark-web/

colorado-1234
Sat, 05 Jan 2019 23:09:10 GMT

The masks he wears in his social media accounts are all related to the dark web. Makes sense to me that his social media is a lure to a deeper purpose.

hercules_q_rockafeller
Sat, 05 Jan 2019 23:27:38 GMT

Another theory I have regarding this video is that it could have been created as a way to implicate everybody involved on purpose. The video could be used as a way to prevent the group from turning on each other as a "if I go down due to snitching etc, you will go down to". Another theory I have is that it could have been filmed in secret. If this was the case, the person who only filmed it, would be more likely to show it to others, thinking they are not directly involved in the murder. Either way, I could see getting a bullet hole in the hand for sharing the vid?

colorado-1234
Sun, 06 Jan 2019 00:10:08 GMT

I wonder if there is any relevance to the guy mentioning “the people responsible are not alive”?: https://alamosanews.com/article/delford-sandy-jack-ward-29 One of the trustafarians mentions this person too. I wonder if there are too many crestoners involved to ever get this solved. (Same trustafarian KB was with right before she had a breakdown ....or got dosed 🧐). On another note, these crestoners need to clean their damn fingernails. I’m sure this seems insensitive, but too many people know what happened for this to still be unsolved.

waxsimulacra
Sun, 06 Jan 2019 00:46:33 GMT

Sorry if my response was confusing, I’m aware of the dark web, just not that CF had been mentioned in the context of sketchy things being sold on the dark web.

hercules_q_rockafeller
Sun, 06 Jan 2019 14:39:38 GMT

Dam, I never thought of that with KB. Are you a local? Is that what you think happened to her?

hercules_q_rockafeller
Sun, 06 Jan 2019 16:28:46 GMT

@Colorado Just checked out link, crazy nobody had brought that up before. So this is the guy CF dosed up and got the frostbite right? Does anybody know how he passed? 29 is really young.

twopancakes
Sun, 06 Jan 2019 18:02:18 GMT

no, frostbite guy is Josh P (“Jack” on the podcast) @colorado where have you seen that person mentioned? it’s a name i haven’t heard before

colorado-1234
Thu, 10 Jan 2019 05:02:47 GMT

The queen of Crestone’s granddaughter.

charlietots
Thu, 10 Jan 2019 14:50:54 GMT

Has anyone read this guy's story on Quora? https://www.quora.com/Who-is-responsible-for-the-deaths-of-Kristal-Anne-Reisinger-Brandy-Raven-Bishop-and-Teri-Rill. I'm not sure if he is really credible, but he claims to have been instrumental in solving the Charlie Billis case in Vermont. He seems to have a lot of inside info, and even names the $5K guy if you read through the entire post. He even claims that Kristal's case is related to the Brandy Bishop murder. Does anyone know who this Dr. John character is that he references??

charlietots
Thu, 10 Jan 2019 15:11:24 GMT

Sorry, just realized there is a whole thread on this below... apparently I'm late to the game. But, just wondering if anyone else on here has had any run-ins/knowledge of Dr. John or Jesse, or can corroborate this guy's story. I'm interested in this site he mentions for where he thinks Kristal's remains are located. It does make sense that you would not need a shovel to put someone down a mine shaft.

kevinleland
Fri, 11 Jan 2019 15:28:02 GMT

Yes, Hercules. I think you hit the nail on the head. The video is a tool, a way of keeping everyone silent. It was probably posted on the Darkweb. I bet LE knows it. But the dark web makes it impossible to trace back to the poster. But there is probably visual evidence. It's like Payne said, they probably know what happened, but they need evidence, like a body and some confessions.