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🇺🇸 JC 🇺🇸
Tue, 28 Aug 2018 04:00:25 GMT

Was July 13, 2016 a full moon? If not, is there a date wrong somewhere or do the drum circles happen all the time?

Tue, 28 Aug 2018 04:18:31 GMT

Nope it was July 19th from what I found.

Tue, 28 Aug 2018 18:15:00 GMT

It was only half full according to historical moon phase data so no one would mistake it for being a full moon. They’ve been repeating that she went to a drum circle on a full moon on the 13th so it doesn’t add up.

Tue, 28 Aug 2018 19:07:54 GMT

They never said she went to the drum circle on the 13th. Her dad says the 13th seems like when she went missing. Others say she went missing the night of the drum circle, but did not specify a date. What I’m assuming is she stopped communicating to her daughter on the 13Th (which would give her dad and her ex a reason to say that’s about when she went missing) BUT I think even though she stopped communicating with kasha, she was still seen by people in the town on the 19th (full moon day). Maybe she was abducted or kidnapped or whatever and drugged and went to the drum circle with her kidnapper because he knew if she wasn’t there it would raise suspicion. Maybe he didn’t know she had a daughter that she usually calls every day so he didn’t cover his tracks in that aspect. Maybe she even “walked off” from the drum circle to try to escape him. But I’m just theorizing. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Tue, 28 Aug 2018 19:15:28 GMT

Payne pretty clearly states in both episodes of the podcast that she was last seen at the drum circle. In the second episode, some dudes that were at the drum circle state that it was on a full moon. Everywhere you look onlline that describes the case (almost everywhere - i have seen some places including the national missing database list July 30) says she was last seen July 13. So put it together and they seem to say the full moon drum circle was July 13....except there was no full moon. Need to know date that Ara McDonald the landlord last saw her (incident where she was crying).

Tue, 28 Aug 2018 20:07:57 GMT

I agree there is a shit ton of confusion. I’m just saying that the people he’s talking to could have conflicting stories. Yes, people say she was last seen at a drum circle, yes people say she was last seen the 13th, by they’re not the same some people. There’s even an article that says the police have gotten conflicting stories of being missing the 13th but being heard from a few days later, and one person says they saw her in her home on the 30th. [ECF00016-C6A3-48B4-A34D-9AAEC5A35509](//muut.com/u/upandvanished/s3/:upandvanished:GqWt:ecf00016c6a348b4a34d9aaec5a35509.jpeg.jpg)

Tue, 28 Aug 2018 20:08:11 GMT


Tue, 28 Aug 2018 20:10:38 GMT

Pics still aren’t working. Folks have been uploading to imgur and sharing the link here. :/

Tue, 28 Aug 2018 20:38:25 GMT

Oh I don’t know how to do that. Let me find the link of where I got the info.. this link says she was last seen at her residence, not the drum circle, by the landlord. https://www.namus.gov/MissingPersons/Case#/34811 And this one says she disappeared the 13th but some say she may have been seen at a later date. It also says that the landlord said she was sexually assisted the night of or before the drum circle (but which one? June’s drum circle? Or July’s?) https://centerpostdispatch.com/article/sheriff-comments-on-new-info-in-missing-person-case Then this one says she disappeared the 13th but may have been seen 5 days later (which is the 18th but could have been close enough to the phase for them to think it was a full moon at the drum circle) and then seen again at her home by only one person in her residence. https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/co-kristal-reisinger-29-crestone-13-july-2016.315423/

Tue, 28 Aug 2018 20:39:15 GMT

Assaulted* not assisted. That’s a bad autocorrect 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

Tue, 28 Aug 2018 23:35:08 GMT

Namus doesn’t say by the landlord - just seen at her residence. We can only assume.