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Matthew. The cops. and. The phone.

shades_apart
Mon, 29 Oct 2018 16:23:59 GMT

Everyone is too busy mocking the spun kid who mumbles, and not mentioning once the abundance of information the landlord left out until questioned in episode 8. And Matthew. And the police coverup? There’s no theories about this?

hercules_q_rockafeller
Fri, 04 Jan 2019 15:24:40 GMT

I could be wrong but I think somewhere somebody posted saying that Eli and/or Rodney went back on these statements about the phone.

kiwishred
Fri, 04 Jan 2019 15:55:58 GMT

That’s how rumors spread like wildfire. Can you specify where the information came from? Catfish I’m guessing?

kiwishred
Fri, 04 Jan 2019 18:43:45 GMT

“Somewhere somebody” excellent information

hercules_q_rockafeller
Fri, 04 Jan 2019 20:39:23 GMT

No I'll search for it, but I am pretty sure it has been brought up in several threads on here.

hercules_q_rockafeller
Fri, 04 Jan 2019 20:47:50 GMT

Also man, I was just replying to your post. One that is similar to 1,000 others by the way, on a topic that has been discussed several times weeks ago. I was just trying to throw some information your way that it seems like you may have not read. Pretty ironic that the guy calling CF a "guilty piece of shit" in one thread is suddenly so concerned with the validity of the information and rumors on here. Maybe you should have just searched the boards yourself before posting some rerun Theory in an old thread.

kiwishred
Sat, 05 Jan 2019 01:54:59 GMT

I don’t see the irony. There’s an overwhelming amount of evidence that proves Catfish is guilty. “Someone from somewhere said something” ???? Literally I’m baffled. If what you’re saying is true, that’s huge. Why should we believe anything in this podcast? You’re the same person who thinks Patrick Frazee is obviously guilty even though zero evidence ties him to a crime. It’s all circumstantial. Just like Catfish. Why do you see guilt in Frazee but not Catfish? A strung out, trust fund baby with an atrocious reputation and a mountain of evidence against him. Makes zero sense.

hercules_q_rockafeller
Sat, 05 Jan 2019 08:24:15 GMT

It took me 10 min on the FB DB to find where Kristal's Ex Eli makes a statement about Wayne/Matt phone situation being a rumor. You literally say "there's an overwhelming amount of evidence that proves CF is guilty" and then in the next paragraph say it's all circumstantial. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE AT ALL! The rumors, and theory that CF is one of the last people to see her is not evidence. And even then, every single rumor contradicts another so I am not even sure how YOU know what can be used as evidence or not. Lastly, I guess I brought this upon myself by replying to stupid unrelated post about the other Colorado lady. For fuck sake, there obviously was/is evidence tying him to the crime because they searched his house and arrested him almost immediately. I mean come the F on, statistically it's almost always the significant other. How about this, anybody that is so sure this guy is innocent, I WILL BET $100 that that dude gets convicted before CF or anybody else in this case! Should be easy money right?

hercules_q_rockafeller
Sat, 05 Jan 2019 08:34:45 GMT

Also, please feel free to post the mountain of evidence against CF. Maybe list with bullet points or something.

kiwishred
Sat, 05 Jan 2019 13:35:04 GMT

Statistically, the person that raped someone is also almost ALWAYS the same person that murdered them. Would you like me to list every case where a girl is murdered by her rapist? How is it unrelated when the whole reason progress isn’t being made is because there’s no body? Patrick Frazee was arrested with no body. The reason they found enough evidence to make an arrest with him is because 70 Fucking police officers combed his property. Meanwhile, we’re still relying on dipshit Wayne who “searched” CF property. I’m not on Facebook so maybe you can send a screenshot or something? Your description is vague and useless. To be clear, I don’t think Frazee is innocent. I think he’s obviously guilty as well. I think if Wayne did his job, it would have been easy to arrest Catfish, shit even if it was just for distributing meth in town. Wayne isn’t doing his job. Evidence against Catfish: Last person to see her. Accused of sexual assault. Gutted his entire house and fled town when the podcast started. Tries to deflect by saying Big Cat was the last person to see her. Blocke d Big Cat on FB after being confronted. Reputation for drugging people to insanity. LIES! About everything. Claims to need people to clean his house because he physically can’t. Then we learn he’s on a four hour bike ride. Says he’s not good with computers then talks about hacking Amazon. Used Brian’s FB to send himself a message saying Brian killed her. 2 years later, thinks Kristal might be at Disneyland. Calls Payne to talk for hours on end. You know who’s actions were innocent when they called in? Big Cat. He called to clear his name, nothing more then tried to confront Catfish. CF on the other hand wants everyone to know he doesn’t listen to the podcast, yet wants to talk to Payne for hours. 2 and a half years after Kristal went missing, CF can still be found on discussion boards. What kind of innocent person cares about something from 2 years ago? It’s eating him alive.

kiwishred
Sat, 05 Jan 2019 13:36:31 GMT

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kiwishred
Sat, 05 Jan 2019 13:37:28 GMT

That’s a Facebook post from before the podcast started. CF has always been a suspect. The podcast freaked him out and he left town.

kiwishred
Sat, 05 Jan 2019 13:44:25 GMT

It’s obviously not evidence that can be used in court!!! But it’s enough to say maybe 70 cops should search CF’s property!!!! Or IDK maybe enough for people to stop trying to find innocence in him?!? Do you think sexual assault charges could be a motive?

kiwishred
Sat, 05 Jan 2019 13:45:24 GMT

Or let me guess, you read something somewhere about someone saying Kristal never said she was assaulted? Lol

hercules_q_rockafeller
Sat, 05 Jan 2019 15:52:01 GMT

Honestly, I just can't do this anymore with you. All I did was reply to one message you posted with legit information by the way, and you can't help being a dick apparently. It's pretty clear you do not know much about this case or care to learn so I am just gonna stop. Don't go changin.

kiwishred
Sat, 05 Jan 2019 15:58:35 GMT

So legit. The most legit information ever. It’s legit because I say it’s legit. It’s pretty clear you’re on CF’s side. Have a good one buddy ✌🏼

hercules_q_rockafeller
Sat, 05 Jan 2019 16:36:13 GMT

Sorry, I would post link but I'm not as good at posting links as you.

kayw66
Sun, 06 Jan 2019 04:12:00 GMT

Did we ever figure out why Rodney and Eli recanted that story or where it came from or why it was told in he first place? (Assuming it's really true they recanted the story...) It DOES seem highly unlikely that a cop would give a known criminal an important piece of evidence to get info off of (i.e. the phone.)

hercules_q_rockafeller
Sun, 06 Jan 2019 14:37:24 GMT

No, I'm not at sure how that happened. The post I found on FB read like Eli was repeating a rumor rather than telling this story first-hand.

kiwishred
Sun, 06 Jan 2019 20:14:56 GMT

@ Ara, you said the last call in Kristal’s phone was from Catfish. I believe you. I think Payne did a good job with this podcast and I don’t think you’re under any suspicion. I wonder why Payne chose to leave that out of the podcast, I think Kristal’s phone is the only piece of physical evidence useful in this case. If the last call in her phone was from Catfish then she was probably on her way to see him. Do you remember the time and date of the call? Why isn’t that enough evidence to bring Catfish in for questioning with authorities? Hook him up to polygraph? He seems to be comfortable with answering questions about Kristal. If he’s innocent, why doesn’t he help?

hercules_q_rockafeller
Mon, 07 Jan 2019 08:00:16 GMT

I'm pretty sure Ara is long gone. I think she was ran off by harassment and people questioning her story. You can see this firsthand if you go through the threads she posted on. CF has stated multiple times that he has spoke to the CBI and been cleared. Payne sort of corroborated that CF and CBI were at least involved in some exchange of information regarding the DB FB message. So I think CF has talked to them. A local that know DB also has stated that DB spoke to CBI and was cleared. Obviously this is not first hand info so don't come at me, but the post is on this board. As far as polygraph, those are used more often to exclude or clear people than to prove guilt and are not admissible in court. LE can only ask you to take a test.

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