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Who is the real Kristal ?

Sun, 26 Aug 2018 07:52:11 GMT

Just my thoughts as a mother... all who knew her said she was so lovely and warm and loving and a wonderful person with such a good spirit etc etc etc... which I am not disputing. These traits do not seem to be of someone who would just up and leave her 2 year old daughter. That in my heart is quite a selfish thing for a Mother to do. Not victim blaming, but it just doesn’t make sense with who they say she was. Hooked on the new Season already.

Sun, 26 Aug 2018 07:59:48 GMT

@mareeVee I see where you are coming from but does that really matter? No matter where you are in motherhood or life I don’t think it’s ok for someone to hurt or deceive. If she is dead and someone knows what happened and where she is then it’s not ok. That’s just my opinion and I absolutely understand what you are saying just don’t think it matters as far as her disappearance

Sun, 26 Aug 2018 12:57:01 GMT

Of course no one deserves to unwillingly disappear. Kristal is being described by her loved ones through rose coloured glasses (which I totally understand) I do have sincere sadness for her little girl. She is a victim of this possible crime too.

Sun, 26 Aug 2018 13:19:30 GMT

It’s a good question. I would add another too: why move permanently to another town and then keep in touch daily with your young child? You love the child enough to call them daily but not enough to not permanently move away. And I say permanently because on the first episode someone says she fit in the town and intended to stay there. I don’t see how you can sustain those daily calls forever either. But anyway, I don’t think these questions are irrelevant. Aspects of the victim’s personality/mentality invariably enter the equation when you are trying to uncover the truth. People’s tendency to think or act a certain way explains what might have happened to them. Do we know that Kasha was 2 when Kristal went missing? Or when she moved to Crestone? The few articles written on the case don’t state when Kristal moved to that town (I believe from Denver). Other things that I’d be interested in is her financial situation. Why did she file for bankruptcy? What was her employment situation? Where were her funds coming from?

Sun, 26 Aug 2018 15:21:48 GMT

I think it is important to know these things about her life and rhythm etc I was just stating that no matter what or how she was basically she is still a victim. Also in episode 1 her dad I think said that she had used her food stamp card to buy groceries so there is where she gets some funds not sure about a job other than she played in that band and I saw a post NP shared that KR posted on FB May, 10, 2016 that said "Hi all!! I am attempting to get the free box up and running again! If anyone would like to help me with this endeavor please pm me! Lets keep the free box free!!! Thanks so much!!" not sure if this something she got paid to do or just a nice thing to do for the community.

Wed, 29 Aug 2018 01:08:57 GMT

I’m also a mother and even though it’s strange I can totally understand leaving her child if she was in fact recovering from addiction. She probably get that she was unfit to mother her child so she left to find clarity. And she planned on eventually having her daughter back with her.

Wed, 29 Aug 2018 04:50:43 GMT

I absolutely agree with the OP. As a new mother of a 7 month old girl, this bothered me very much. I can’t comprehend what “spiritual journey” would possess me to leave the daily life of my daughter. Episode 2 started alluding to her addiction a lot more. By no means does anyone deserve what’s happened to Kristal but she was living a life that comes with consequences unfortunately. I’m sure she was an amazing person and loved her immensely but why is her story so special? She abandoned her daughter to live her own selfish drug fueled lifestyle. I hope thos podcast takes a turn and stops painting her like a Saint. What kind of delusional person would think Crestone is an appropriate place to bring her child eventually anyways.

Wed, 29 Aug 2018 05:07:50 GMT

Clearly she didn't "abandon her daughter to live her own selfish drug fueled lifestyle." I'm sorry but I tend to believe the best in people, believe what Payne is telling us, and also have had my own similar experiences. I think she moved away to try to get better and relapsed. Unfortunately it DOES happen.

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Wed, 29 Aug 2018 11:01:34 GMT

@lexala... but maybe she did. That, too, is very plausible. If she moved to Crestone to try and get better, she didn't do much research about that town. It couldn't more clearly say we have drugs, lots of them here. You see that right?

Wed, 29 Aug 2018 12:15:48 GMT

I can’t relate as a mom either but I don’t want to jump to the conclusion that Crestone is a bad place to raise a child. I mean, it’s certainly different from Denver but I’m wondering if most of the drug is is in the baca and the 143 people in town have kids and do normal things?

Wed, 29 Aug 2018 12:49:49 GMT

We're not going to know the real Kristal because everything on here , whether from family, friends, or towns people is hearsay, nothing has been proven as fact. Regarding her leaving her daughter, which was stated was temporary happens in all walks of life. Women in the military leave their children willingly. Also you're hearing only her ex-boyfriends reason for why she left and probably in piece or many of her situation. It happens and it doesn't make someone a bad parent necessarily whether someone can relate to it or not.

Wed, 29 Aug 2018 13:16:25 GMT

I see that she moved away trying to get better according to the landlady. Seems she thought it was a spiritual place and maybe part of the appeal was the remoteness, maybe she thought drugs would be hard to come by there. I dont know, I can only put myself in her shoes and I could see myself doing something like that when I was younger.

Wed, 29 Aug 2018 14:27:57 GMT

There are bad people and drugs everywhere, in everybody's neighborhoods. The area where Kristal was in the San Luis Valley is considered sacred to the Navajo, also the Sangre de Cristo mountains (Blood of Christ) that are near Crestone got there name because of the way the mountains looked when the sun was going down and they looked red. This is sacred ground with a documented history of supernatural sightings in the way of Bigfoot, ufo's, etc..... It's unfortunate that something sacred like the drum circle there has been turned into a "party" where drugs are rampant. And it's likely the lack of police presence is what allows this to happen. http://www.enchantedforestcrestone.net/crestone--the-san-luis-valley.html But to know what Crestone is really like and the surrounding area's you would have to dig much deeper.

Wed, 29 Aug 2018 14:33:12 GMT

I would think that's why PL adds this information to this story, you want insight into Crestone and what's it like and he's giving it to you.