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Changing Clip Names in the Catalogue

filmcutter53
Sun, 27 Jan 2019 19:09:39 GMT

I've just started using Videux (So only about 500 projects to catalogue!) and I have a question. Can I change the name of a clip in the catalogue without actually changing the original file name in my archive? Second...Can somebody help me understand that renaming panel...I am pretty intuitive but this one is baffling.

chris
Sun, 27 Jan 2019 20:20:02 GMT

We don't keep a separate title from the filename. We did some research and found that a lot of people were confused by apps that did this, ie having the name different than the filename. So we kept that simple; the filename is the name. A "title" is really just metadata, so you can accomplish the same thing by giving your clips a metadata item named "Title". The rename panel is all about renaming a batch of files. Select a group of videos and you can rename using any of a number of different parameters. I'll write up a couple of examples for you shortly.

filmcutter53
Sun, 27 Jan 2019 21:37:29 GMT

Excellent thanks...The issue stems from the fact that a lot of my file names are the same over different projects. I have about 10 (so far) DJI001 and that starts to get a little messy.

chris
Mon, 28 Jan 2019 00:09:49 GMT

I see. So the rename thing could help with that to some extent. But let me turn it around... how could we help organize what you have?

filmcutter53
Mon, 28 Jan 2019 01:58:13 GMT

I'd like to have the ability to change the name of the video in the catalogue but still have it "point" to the original/master file in my archive. Almost like an alias that still follows the path and links to the original. Make Sense. In the attached I just want to be able to change the name (Since I have for example 2 DJI_0001.MOV's [Screen Shot 2019-01-27 at 7](//muut.com/u/videux/s3/:videux:PX7B:screenshot20190127at7.55.46pm.png.jpg)

chris
Tue, 29 Jan 2019 14:11:19 GMT

I think this is something we could do with just a little change using our existing metadata scheme. Let me think about it a bit and see what we can come up with. Question though, why not just rename the file? By using this alias thing, you run into the possibility of confusion or name collisions. i.e. suppose you want to send both of those clips to a customer, so copy them to a single directory. The names (titles) are different, but the filenames are the same. So you have a filename collision, where things can happen like a file getting overwritten or not copied. By using unique file names, you avoid those possibilities and keep things simple.

filmcutter53
Tue, 29 Jan 2019 14:36:18 GMT

Why not rename the file? Like most filmmakers I generally keep at least three copies of every card I shoot for archiving and backup. I do that immediately upon ingest after a shoot using ShotPut Pro. I'll always have my main archive drive (Which is where I point to fo Videux reference) but then I have to make sure everything else matches in my other protection archives so there are three times I have to change a file name vs. on in Videux where I only have to do it once. Second, though the likelihood is remote...you start screwing around with file names on a card clone or as that file relates to FCPX you are asking for trouble relative to files becoming linked. This is one of the reasons I wanted to use Videux...it's real value comes in using it as a "Hero Shot" reference library where I can change the name, add keywords etc and NOT have to monkey with the original file structure of the original card clone. in summary...I never was to change an original file name on the original (or cloned) file out of camera. So how convenient and easy to organize shots in Videux by naming a it whatever I want there and having Videux know that this is really DJI0001.MP4 sitting on this drive.

chris
Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:32:42 GMT

OK, thanks for the feedback, good stuff. I've always found the idea that expensive video software could get confused by something as simple as a file name change a bit disturbing. But I get that this thought is fairly rampant through the industry. And made worse by the especially lame AVCHD directory nonsense. And RED files lean this way as well. Doesn't make it easy to organize. Anyway, I like the idea and will see what we can do to display the title instead of filename if it exists. Thanks again for your input.

filmcutter53
Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:38:35 GMT

Thanks for your great responsiveness on this. You have a great product and this commitment to always making better...makes it even better. Will you let all of us know if/when this becomes a feature?

chris
Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:46:44 GMT

Yes, will do. Thanks!